tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5641915767779556791.post8652127213454134815..comments2023-05-16T17:26:58.663+05:30Comments on Dame lo que quiero: Traffic. No, really, this is RIDICULOUS!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5641915767779556791.post-5784441668354217662010-07-30T09:42:31.672+05:302010-07-30T09:42:31.672+05:30oh no no the panopticon is the only sure basis for...oh no no the panopticon is the only sure basis for a stable society. especially modern society so crammed and crowded. <br /><br />bribes, here is my problem: the point of fines is to punish people for contravening a social contract, and act as a deterrent from making those violations. By this definition, yes it doesn't matter. <br /><br />I'm letting my objection to violating said social contract stay out of this. <br /><br />The other thing with fines is, they are a source of income, along with taxes, which many people evade in India. Those fines end up paying for flyovers, repairing potholes, building pavements, buying buses, etc. Granted, with corruption etc possibly half that money reaches its destination, if not less. Again, set aside the problems with corruption and suchlike. To have the kind of infrastructure one wants from a city, to have an MTR, you need the fines to go to the government, because the more that goes in, the more that eventually makes it way to the destination.<br /><br />That's why I always pay fines. <br /><br />They went through this period where they were writing down numbers...<br /><br />ok you know what, this is becoming another post.MinCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04535698803359528391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5641915767779556791.post-88529948381709398132010-07-30T09:06:52.165+05:302010-07-30T09:06:52.165+05:30Are you seeing the panopticon as a bad thing? I kn...Are you seeing the panopticon as a bad thing? I know Foucault sort of did... but if there's less chaos on the streets, I'd still go for it. It's not restricted to the West either, I'd say Hong Kong and Singapore are much more "panopticonised", especially the latter. Though it need not just be fear of punishment that motivates people not to break rules; it could also be a general social consent among the majority that this is the system that works best for all. <br /><br />In India, with regard to traffic policemen at least, I've become less strident about bribes. Because paying a bribe works as a deterant too... I always wondered why traffic cops in Hyderabad didn't enforce the rules more strictly and make some money for themselves as cops in Bombay do. Yes, it would be ideal if the fines went to the government and then trickled down to the cops... but it doesn't, so bribes are a more direct system I guess.The Bridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10402100518464137956noreply@blogger.com